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INTC - Case Study - Bernstein illustrative manufacturing burden Improvement
可以。今次我當佢係一個 **one-time shadow forecast**,完全唔改我哋正式 forecast;之後只有 Intel 真係喺 results 入面交到持續 margin / cost improvement,我先會考慮將呢個 mechanism 正式搬入 model。
先定義清楚:你講嘅 **50% / 45%**,我理解係 Bernstein 嗰個 illustrative manufacturing burden 由目前約 **$60 per $100 Products revenue**,改善到:
> **Base-bull:$50**
> **Bull:$45**
唔係話 Intel corporate GM 變50%/45%。
我繼續用上次個中性 capture assumption:cost gap改善唔會100%變成profit,假設 **70%真正落到 operating profit**;15% tax;約5.4B diluted shares。
## 先睇純 EPS 槓桿
如果 burden由 **$60 → $50**:
> 10pts cost improvement × 70% capture
> = **+7pts operating profit**
如果由 **$60 → $45**:
> 15pts × 70%
> = **+10.5pts operating profit**
所以唔同 Products revenue level,大概係:
| Products revenue | $60→$50 EPS uplift | $60→$45 EPS uplift |
| ---------------: | -----------------: | -----------------: |
| **$80B** | **+$0.88** | **+$1.32** |
| **$100B** | **+$1.10** | **+$1.65** |
| **$120B** | **+$1.32** | **+$1.98** |
| **$150B** | **+$1.65** | **+$2.48** |
而家 Intel Products annualised revenue大概係 ~$60B級,所以去到2028–30,如果CPU cycle令Products revenue升到$80–120B以上,呢個 cost recovery就會變得非常material。Q2 2026 Products已經係約$15.1B quarterly revenue、31.8% segment OM,所以個starting base唔細。
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# 對我哋原本 forecast 有幾大影響?
我哋最新正式 forecast係:
| Horizon | Base | Bull |
| ------- | -------: | -------: |
| **12M** | $140–170 | $190–235 |
| **18M** | $170–210 | $245–305 |
| **24M** | $195–240 | $295–370 |
| **36M** | $250–310 | $390–485 |
今次 shadow case我會假設:
> **Base:逐步走向 $50 burden**
> **Bull:逐步走向 $45 burden**
而且唔會假設立即完成;2027只係market開始price,2028–30先逐步反映落earnings。
### One-time adjusted shadow forecast
| Horizon | 正式 Base | **Shadow Base — burden→$50** | 正式 Bull | **Shadow Bull — burden→$45** |
| ------- | -------: | ---------------------------: | -------: | ---------------------------: |
| **12M** | $140–170 | **$155–190** | $190–235 | **$215–270** |
| **18M** | $170–210 | **$190–240** | $245–305 | **$280–355** |
| **24M** | $195–240 | **$220–275** | $295–370 | **$335–425** |
| **36M** | $250–310 | **$280–350** | $390–485 | **$435–550** |
呢張表唔係新official forecast,只係問:
> **如果Bernstein所講嘅 synthetic-IDM gap 真係開始被Intel收窄,原本估值大概可以多幾多?**
答案係:
> **Base大概多 $15–40/share**
> **Bull大概多 $25–65/share**
越長期越大,因為 revenue base越大,而cost improvement係按整個Products revenue base乘落去。
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## 點解股價impact可以咁大?
假設去到2028左右:
> Products revenue ~$90–100B
如果burden去到$50:
> EPS大概多 **$1.0–1.1**
假設市場畀 sustainable earnings 20–22x:
> 額外值大約 **$20–24/share**
如果Bull去到$45:
> EPS大概多 **$1.5–1.65**
用22–25x:
> 額外大概 **$33–41/share**
去到2029–30,如果Products revenue已經$120B甚至更高:
> $50 case:+$1.3 EPS左右
> $45 case:接近+$2 EPS甚至更多
咁估值槓桿自然再放大。
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# 最有意思其實係 EPS path
我哋之前一直討論:
> CPU Products有冇機會去到 **$6 EPS**
> Bull甚至$7–8。
如果只靠:
> volume + ASP + mix
可能要一個非常強CPU cycle。
但如果再加:
> manufacturing burden下降
件事會容易好多。
例如原本某個Bull year:
> Products EPS = **$6.0**
再加 $60→$50:
> 可能變 **$7.0–7.3**
如果去到$45:
> 甚至可能 **$7.5–8.0+**
所以呢個sensitivity真正有趣之處係:
> **$8 EPS唔一定需要Intel多賣一倍CPU。**
>
> 有一部分可以來自同樣收入,但製造成本正常化。
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## 而且呢個同CPU boom係乘法,不係加法
最bullish組合係:
> CPU TAM ↑
>
> * ASP ↑
> * Intel supply ↑
> * Products revenue ↑
> * 18A / Intel 3 yield ↑
> * die size / packaging cost ↓
如果只有cost improvement但revenue唔增,value有限。
但如果Intel由 ~$60B Products revenue:
> → $100B
> → $120B
同時每$100 revenue製造負擔:
> $60 → $50 → $45
咁 profit expansion會非常非線性。
呢個先係點解Bernstein嗰個 synthetic IDM comparison值得研究。
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# 但有一個我一定要壓住嘅地方
我唔會假設:
> $60 → $45一定發生。
因為嗰個 gap入面有好多嘢:
* Foundry utilization
* yield
* die size
* packaging
* test
* node economics
* product architecture
* depreciation
* internal transfer pricing
任何一樣做唔到,都可能令gap只收窄少少。
所以我會將今次最合理嘅 one-time conclusion寫成:
> **$50 burden係一個可信嘅 Base-Bull sensitivity。**
>
> **$45係一個較強Bull,但未到Extreme。**
>
> **$30以下先係接近synthetic IDM world-class execution嘅Extreme scenario。**
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### 對我哋原本forecast最簡單嘅結論
如果 Intel真係逐步由 ~$60 burden改善至:
> **$50**:原本 Base valuation大概有 **10–15%額外上行空間**
>
> **$45**:原本 Bull valuation大概有 **10–20%額外上行空間**
而最明顯嘅impact係 **18–36M**,唔係12M。
所以你之前話:
> 「暫時只當bullish thinking,等results真係見margin改善先入正式forecast」
我完全同意。
但做完今次shadow run之後,我會話:**如果未來Intel連續幾季證明呢條cost curve真係開始落,呢個唔係小修正,係可以令2028–30 EPS結構性高一截嘅第二條大earnings lever。**
INTC - case study - CPU product matching AMD valuation
係,呢個 case study 好值得做。先講我睇完 AMD 最新 valuation 同幾份 analyst SOTP 之後最重要嘅結論:
> **我哋長期用 20–22x 去估 Intel Products,的確比市場目前給 AMD CPU franchise 嘅 implied multiple 保守一截。**
>
> 但 AMD $1T market cap 絕對唔可以理解成「市場俾 CPU 50x」。AMD GPU 已經唔再係純 optionality,市場今日係同時 price 緊 **EPYC + Instinct + future rack-scale AI systems**。
今次只做 **one-time case study**,完全唔改我哋正式 forecast。
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## 先睇最反直覺嘅比較
AMD 9月21日第一次突破 **$1T market cap**,股價 $615.52。Intel 同日約 **$640B market cap**。([Reuters][1])
但睇最新季度:
| Q2'26 | Intel Products | AMD whole company |
| ----------------------------------- | -------------: | -----------------: |
| Revenue | **$15.14B** | **$11.54B** |
| Segment / non-GAAP operating profit | **$4.82B** | **$3.09B** |
| Operating margin | **31.8%** | **26.8% non-GAAP** |
Intel Products數據係Intel自己10-Q:CCPG $8.88B + DCAI $6.26B,Products OI $4.82B。 AMD Q2 revenue $11.54B、non-GAAP operating income $3.09B。([AMD Newsroom][2])
所以你個直覺完全合理:
> **點解一間目前Products earnings仲大過AMD全公司嘅Intel,market cap反而得AMD大約64%?**
答案主要唔係「今日賺幾多」。
係市場認為:
> **AMD未來earnings增長更快、更乾淨、更容易convert成FCF,而且execution風險低好多。**
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# 但首先要修正一點:AMD GPU已經唔係「未materialize」
AMD Q2 Data Center revenue已經 $6.7B,EPYC + Instinct共同推動;AMD更明確講 **Instinct sales >2x YoY**。([StockAnalysis.com][3])
而Street而家估得非常進取:
Citi估 AMD AI GPU revenue:
> **2027 $33B**
> **2028 $50.8B**
Wells Fargo更加估:
> **2027 $40.6B**
> **2028 $63B**。([Investing.com][4])
所以AMD $1T入面,好大部分已經係:
> **GPU future earnings capitalization**
而唔係CPU。
呢點同Intel嘅:
14A / EMIB-T / HBM base die
唔完全同級,因為AMD Instinct已經ship緊、revenue已經material,而且有大型announced deployments。
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# 咁市場究竟俾AMD CPU幾多?
呢度有一份非常有用嘅資料。
Citi今年6月做過 AMD SOTP:
> **Data Center GPU:$281/share**
> **Data Center CPU:$204/share**
> client/gaming/embedded另外計
> net cash約 $35/share。([Investing.com][4])
AMD約1.63B shares,所以單係Citi個:
> **Data Center CPU business = 約 $333B valuation**
而GPU:
> 約 **$458B**。
呢個已經直接證明:
> 市場/analysts並唔係只畀AMD CPU 20x左右。
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## 可以反推AMD server CPU大概係幾多 PE
Wells Fargo估 AMD server CPU revenue:
> 2026 $16.0B
> 2027 $20.5B
> **2028 $25.0B**。([Investing.com UK][5])
AMD冇披露純EPYC operating margin,所以我哋只能做 sensitivity。
如果2028:
> Revenue = $25B
> operating margin = **35–40%**
> tax ≈15%
咁純server CPU after-tax earnings大概:
> **$7.4–8.5B**
Citi CPU valuation:
> ~$333B
代表大概:
> **39–45x 2028 CPU earnings**
注意:呢個唔係Citi公開話「我用42x PE」,而係我用佢SOTP valuation反推嘅 **implied multiple**。
而且Citi可能本身係用更遠期2030 earnings / TAM做DCF或SOTP,所以唔應將42x視為精確target multiple。
但方向非常清楚:
> **AMD server CPU franchise係用遠高過20–22x嘅valuation framework去估。**
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# 如果計埋Ryzen,我會用幾多做AMD CPU proxy?
Data Center CPU ~40–45x implied可能偏高,因為:
AMD client Ryzen應該唔值40幾倍;
所以將:
> EPYC + Ryzen
合埋做一個整體 CPU Products franchise,
我會比較舒服用:
> **約30–40x**
>
> 中間值大約 **35x**
做今日 AMD-equivalent CPU multiple。
呢個係我今次 case study 用嘅數。
唔係話AMD市場「官方PE=35x」,而係:
> **用AMD SOTP + current CPU earnings/revenue economics推返出嚟嘅合理proxy。**
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# 同一個2028 horizon其實仲有個幾有趣結果
AMD而家約$1T。
MarketScreener consensus估:
> 2027 net income ~$21.9B
> 2028 ~$33.5B。([MarketScreener UK][6])
即:
> **2027 PE ≈46x**
> **2028 PE ≈30x**
所以市場其實係look-through 2026,price 2027/28。
Intel consensus 2028 net income反而只係約 **$13.2B**。([MarketScreener][7])
用Intel $640B current market cap:
> consolidated 2028 PE ≈ **48x**
即係有件好有趣嘅事:
> **Intel whole company今日其實唔比AMD便宜。**
真正平嘅係:
> **Intel Products SOTP multiple**
而唔係Intel consolidated PE。
原因係Foundry loss將consolidated earnings食咗好多。
Intel Q2 Products OI:
> **+$4.82B**
但Intel Foundry:
> **-$2.09B** operating loss。
所以市場唔肯直接將Products當AMD咁估。
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# 點解AMD CPU值得30–40x,而我哋一直只畀Intel 20–22x?
我覺得主要係以下幾件事,而唔係AMD CPU本身神奇好多。
| | AMD | Intel |
| --------------------------- | ------------------ | ---------------------- |
| Manufacturing risk | **TSMC承擔** | Intel自己承擔 |
| Capital intensity | 低 | **非常高** |
| Server CPU share trajectory | 持續gain | 過去持續loss,最近先可能轉折 |
| Product execution | Zen cadence非常穩 | 過去多年delay留下discount |
| Near-term supply | TSM allocation限制 | 自己fab/substrate限制 |
| FCF conversion | 高 | Foundry / CapEx大量吸cash |
| GPU optionality | **已開始materialize** | AI GPU仍較early |
| Foundry optionality | 無 | **Intel獨有巨大upside** |
| Packaging optionality | 較少 | **EMIB-T有額外價值** |
而AMD自己已經公開目標:
> > 50% server CPU revenue share
> > Data Center >60% CAGR
> > AI business >80% CAGR。([Advanced Micro Devices, Inc.][8])
加上Q2 EPYC cloud同enterprise sales都 >70% YoY,市場自然願意提前畀較高multiple。([The Motley Fool][9])
Intel今日雖然CPU demand亦爆緊,但市場仍然問:
> Clearwater/Diamond execution得唔得?
> 18A成本幾時落?
> Foundry幾時breakeven?
> CapEx仲要幾多?
> dilution仲會唔會有?
所以係 **confidence discount**。
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# 但有一點我覺得我哋20–22x可能真係太保守
Intel Products今日已經係一個:
> ~$60B annualized revenue business
> ~32% operating margin
而且Intel自己internal foundry transfer pricing本身就係想接近market economics,所以Products某程度已經係用「fabless-like」方式去衡量。
如果去到2028:
CPU demand仍然強
* server ASP保持
* Clearwater / Diamond正常
* 18A cost下降
* Products margin改善
* Foundry唔再拖累investor confidence
咁我唔覺得市場永遠只會畀:
> **20–22x**
25–30x其實好合理。
而如果 Intel Products真係做到同AMD CPU franchise類似嘅:
> growth visibility + execution confidence
**30–35x**係完全值得test嘅。
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# 而家做你要嘅 one-time forecast
### ⚠️ 唔係正式forecast
我用以下假設:
> Intel Products原本 valuation multiple ≈ **22x**
> Partial AMD parity = **30x**
> Full AMD-like CPU parity proxy = **35x**
我哋之前2030 Products model roughly有:
> Base net income ≈ **$28B**
> Bull ≈ **$40–42B**。
即 roughly:
> Base Products EPS ≈ **$5.2**
> Bull Products EPS ≈ **$7.5**
而 Foundry / EMIB / other SOTP **完全唔改**。
因為市場唔會一夜之間由22x升35x,我再假設multiple rerating逐步發生:
> 12M:25%
> 18M:50%
> 24M:75%
> 36M:100%
### One-time AMD multiple parity case
| Horizon | **正式 Base** | **30x Products** | **35x AMD-like** | **正式 Bull** | **30x Products** | **35x AMD-like** |
| ------- | ----------: | ---------------: | ---------------: | ----------: | ---------------: | ---------------: |
| **12M** | $140–170 | **$150–180** | **$157–187** | $190–235 | **$205–250** | **$214–259** |
| **18M** | $170–210 | **$191–231** | **$204–244** | $245–305 | **$275–335** | **$294–354** |
| **24M** | $195–240 | **$226–271** | **$246–291** | $295–370 | **$340–415** | **$368–443** |
| **36M** | $250–310 | **$292–352** | **$318–378** | $390–485 | **$450–545** | **$488–582** |
再強調:
> **右邊兩欄係今日一次性 valuation experiment,唔係我哋新forecast。**
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# 我覺得真正interesting係24M
假設去到2028年尾:
Intel已經證明:
> CPU shortage唔係一年cycle
> DCAI earnings持續升
> 18A product economics改善
> 14A正常
> Foundry breakeven接近
> EMIB-T開始有真正external revenue
咁問題就會變成:
> **點解Intel Products仍然只值20–22x,而AMD CPU值30–40x?**
如果到時答案只剩:
> 「因為Intel以前做得差」
呢個discount係好容易收窄。
所以我認為最realistic嘅rerating step唔係:
> 22x → 40x
而係:
> **22x → 25x → 28x → 30x**
其實淨係去到 **30x**,24M Base由:
> $195–240
已經可以變成:
> **~$226–271**
而Bull:
> $295–370
變:
> **~$340–415**
完全唔需要Extreme Foundry成功。
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# 如果真係 full AMD CPU parity 呢?
到36M:
Base:
> **~$318–378**
Bull:
> **~$488–582**
呢個數字睇落非常大,但要記住,我哋唔係話 Intel突然多賺咗好多錢。
只係:
> **同一份 earnings,market由22x改用35x估。**
例如Base:
> $5.2 × 22 = ~$114 Products value/share
> $5.2 × 35 = **~$182**
淨multiple expansion已經:
> **+$68/share**
Bull:
> $7.5 × 22 = $165
> $7.5 × 35 = **$263**
即:
> **接近+$100/share**
呢個就係AMD同Intel今日valuation gap真正有意思嘅地方。
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# RED TEAM:點解我唔會今日正式改成30x?
因為AMD個premium唔係免費。
AMD證明咗:
> Zen execution
> EPYC share gain
> fabless capital efficiency
> TSMC manufacturing predictability
> FCF
> GPU growth
好多年。
Intel今日只係開始重新證明:
> Products execution正常返。
而且Intel Foundry仲要食大量cash。
所以我會認為:
> **20–22x = 今日合理 execution-discount multiple**
>
> **25–30x = turnaround被證明後合理 range**
>
> **30–35x = Intel Products真正被市場視為AMD級 growth franchise**
>
> **40x+ = 要非常強 CPU supercycle + sustained share/margin execution**
所以我唔會將35x放入Base。
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## 但今次case study令我有一個幾清楚嘅新觀察
我以前比較集中研究:
> Intel earnings可以升幾多?
但AMD $1T提醒咗一件事:
> **Intel有兩個 rerating lever,而唔係一個。**
第一個:
> **E:earnings上升**
CPU volume / ASP / margins。
第二個:
> **P/E:multiple上升**
由 turnaround CPU company:
> 20–22x
變成 AI infrastructure growth CPU franchise:
> 25–30x甚至更高。
所以:
> **Price = Earnings × Multiple**
兩樣如果同時向上,股價反應會係乘法。
呢個其實可能比我哋之前只focus EPS更加重要。
而我覺得今日 Intel $640B vs AMD $1T 呢個比較真正值得研究嘅唔係:
> 「Intel應唔應該都立即值$1T?」
而係:
> **如果2027–28 Intel Products earnings同execution開始越來越似AMD,市場仲有冇理由畀佢接近50% multiple discount?**
我覺得呢個問題,未來12–24個月會變得愈來愈重要。
**正式forecast維持不變;以上純屬 AMD-multiple parity one-time sensitivity。**
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2021年7月8日 星期四
2021半年結
1月2月衝呀衝呀!!!!! 高位去到今年+25%
好好玩既日子好快就完左~ 一回回到落差唔多無哂升幅, 最低位應該大概+1%
之後開始半倉狀態, 一路倉位保持係3成至5成倉, 估唔到既細倉位可以慢慢UN番上黎, 半年結+16.5%
半年結日正式清倉:
原因一: 持倉估值過高;
原因二: 養下生 (由於上年已經半放棄左港股, 全力美股, 全倉既時候太興奮無覺好瞓, 輕倉時都會心思思瞓瞓下起身睇股價. 決定休息番幾個月, 俾自己好好瞓下, 睇下書, 陪多D屋企人, 襯香港無咩疫情搵多D朋友見下食下野)
大概有10年既全倉操作, 今年既變化幾好, 輕倉左反而易D出入, 可以做好D分析同做分段買入同賣出.
未來都仲係比較混亂, 都係小心D好
2021年1月1日 星期五
2020年結 - 只有不停的進化才能跟上的這個時代
只有不停的進化才能跟上的這個時代
美股: +86.7%
港股: +10.1%
OVERALL: +62.5%
9月正式重新回歸大自然, 多左時間思考, 很好, 全年最佳決定 , 雖然好悶....
7月俾信, 用左足足兩個月去睇TESLA資料. 係學習TESLA既過程, 慢慢開始接受世界既發展, 可以學更加多既野.
半/全年回顧:
1. 1. 半年結提及過既放棄美固定收益系列 (MERK,BKN等等), 始終對於坐定定收息無咩CONVICTION, 點都做唔到味皇個種定定地出糧既態度
2. 2. 半年結提及過既 唔再參與私有化 TIFF同一眾香港既呢一兩年都中夠伏
"又一次係呢D懶係必定攪掂既野"
3. 3. 半年結提及過既
一系列低位買入但無信心坐定定
JD, MSFT, BABA, MA
慢慢開始學習中 tsla, net, sq etc.
4. 4. 半年結提及過既 要了解才反對
TSLA, 1211, 3690, nio, etc 慢慢開始學習中
5. 5. 半年結提及過既 港股就…. 棄小型, 棄古式經濟, 坐靚野
6. 如上面既第5點, 要慢慢明白, 低估總有低估既原因, 俾你買到一次估值修復都係ONE-OFF, 仲要唔知要等幾耐.
學習坐好龍頭
7. 無CONVICTION既, BUILDUP唔到既, 就唔好自己玩個股喇, 就算覺得賽道好靚, 唔識就自然坐唔定, 最多都係玩下D ETF睇下食唔食到賽道, 唔係就算. 只買自己睇得明/令自己搵到CONVICTION既野
8. 今年真係學左好多野, 睇左好多野. 應該要多謝好多人教左我好多野
9. 繼續都係一樣野, 信自己決定, 少同熟人分享NO., 以免影響自己決策力. 今年學人派12月禮物, 大概派左2-3隻都一個月內上到50%+, 可惜往往就係同人些牙完自己就會唔想人輸, 寧願食少D都早早止賺, 下年努力戒
2021年繼續努力學習!!
2020年7月1日 星期三
2020半年結:
美股: +9%
港股: -2%
OVERALL: +4%
工大約番左2年,
係時候又回歸大自然
半年回顧:
1. 1. 美固定收益系列 (MERK,BKN等等)
係3月準備大跌市既時候蝕住出清, 低位無買番
記: 到底係咪叫犯錯? 我諗無人估到POWELL咁癲掛…
不過只少令我明白一樣野,
老美不能睇少
2. 2. TIFF
又一次係呢D懶係必定攪掂既野
買唔係問題, 但唔可以買得大!!!!!!
3. 3. 一系列低位買入但無信心坐定定
JD, MSFT, BABA, MA
4. 4. 要了解才反對
TSLA
5. 5. 港股就…. 棄小型,
棄古式經濟,
坐靚野
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